Hershey, I'm not trying to start issues or problems but all the things I see you say about unions and about sending work to China because of the reasons you list it makes me sick. I am a union carpenter.... I bust my ass every single day to provide for myself, my family and my riding addiction. The problem isn't the unions and believe me I see it first hand in the oil refineries I work in. The problem is the people like you who don't give a flying **** about the working public. All you care about is how much money you make, not the quality of your product or craftsmanship of the product being made.
I'm sorry if you feel its an attack at you but it is not. It's the ideas people have now that they didn't used to have back in the day. People then used to be proud of the term made in America..... I know I Damn sure am. Seems a lot of people don't give a **** anymore.
So how am I supposed to not take this as an attack at me ?
"The problem is the people like you who don't give a flying **** about the working public. All you care about is how much money you make, not the quality of your product or craftsmanship of the product being made."
Explain to me how I shouldnt take that as an attack ?
And excuse me if you ever get the idea I am not proud to be an American or use American products above foreign when I can. As an electrical contractor I am extremely concerned with the quality of our craftsmanship and service, that is how I ensure we stay in business.
Sir, you know absolutely nothing about me or my business, how we strive for perfection. You do not have the first clue about my patriotism or if I give a flying **** about you or my neighbor.
My bike. Yes it is advertising but I love the USA
Correct me if I am wrong but have I ever stated that the union worker is the problem ? The worst I have said is they don't work as hard as non union. The reason being in MY EXPERIENCES on the jobs I have been on the union workers will not work one minute before the starting time, during any breaks or lunch and not one minute past quiting time. They wont even answer questions about the job during those times. They will talk and joke with you but NOTHING related to the job.
I have two employees that used to be union. My production manager was told on numerous jobs to slow down. One time in particular he was told to do nothing for days at a time. He was told to look busy and be sure not to be caught doing nothing. He was scolded numerous times for working too hard. He quit. Another employee of mine got so sick of paying dues and being laid off seasonally that he quit. He worked at two other open shops before coming here. He has now worked for me 4 years. He is one of my best employees when it comes to dedication.
Two of my best friends work in the union. They introduced what is called a C.E. worker. Basically it is a new employee who gets paid less than a commercial journeyman and does not have to go to apprenticeship school. The throw them in the field and let them work. This goes against everything the union promotes themselves as. The union is in trouble because they have out priced themselves because of collective bargaining. The non union shops are easily under bidding them and doing just as good a job as the union contractor.
It is not the union worker that is the problem. Like you said they also want to make money and support their families and lifestyle. The problem is with the unions and the traditions they teach. You are taught that employers like me " dont give a flying ****". The norm is to say 'Stick it to the man'. He owns a business so he is rich. The traditions teach quality work and craftsmanship but they also breed complacency. Dont work any harder than you have to. You always deserve more than you are receiving. These traditions are what has driven our cost of living through the roof. This is why you have bills like SB5 passing in other states and most likely here in Ohio.
Another one of my best friends works as a union employee in a processing plant of sorts. He regularly complains about the fact he makes the same amount an hour as john doe but he doesnt do half the work I do in a day. And the same about many other employees in the plant. The point I am making here is the union protects the poor worker and pays him the same wage as workers such as yourself who " bust their ass " every day. How does it make you feel when you work twice hard as your fellow worker and he takes the same wage home you do ?
I am sorry the reasons China can make products cheaper than us make you sick. I am sorry that my pointing out the truth makes you sick. Prove me wrong about the cost of living in China or Vietnam or Thailand. In no way have I ever said your patriotism, your desire to support your family and way of life was in question. And quite frankly the fact that you said
"The problem is the people like you who don't give a flying **** about the working public. All you care about is how much money you make, not the quality of your product or craftsmanship of the product being made."
shows that you jump to conclusions about people in ignorance. If you knew anything about me you would realize that, sir, is not who I am or how I run my company.
Rant over