It's official

if that's true i bet hes kicking himself in the ass for that one now, lol.

im excited to see him on the KTM and see what he can do. KTM deserves a fair chance at a title shot, and it seems that they have the resources available to do it in the US now.
 
six6seven said:
See I don't believe that to be true, at least about the money, Dungey seems to be one of the more honest, clean, riders, which sometimes you wish he'd just make the pass even if it meant a little bump here or there, I have yet to see him ride dirty, and it kind of incorporates to the person he is. Back when he was making the step up to the 450 and resigning with Rockstar makita, <b>Suzuki did offer to pay him more money,</b> but he declined it!!! He felt he hadn't earned it yet. He wanted to accomplish something for suzuki before he took more money.
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You can't argue with rocket like that, especially only with 33 posts!
 
six6seven said:
Back when he was making the step up to the 450 and resigning with Rockstar makita, <b>Suzuki did offer to pay him more money,</b> but he declined it!!! He felt he hadn't earned it yet. He wanted to accomplish something for suzuki before he took more money.
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I've not heard that one before...hard to believe anyone would turn down money.

Just doesn't make sense on a number of different levels, including sending a message to your employer that you don't believe in yourself.

Do you remember where you heard that?
 
He did not turn money down......nice thought but no way....NO ONE in this sport turns down money if it is being offered. I dont care how nice of a guy you are. If your that nice, take the money and do something good with it.
 
I don't know the specifics of Dungey's or any other rider's contracts or money. I do know that when Dungey won 2 championships last year for Suzuki in the 450 Class, he had huge bonuses in his contract for winning titles (which no one thought he would) and then Suzuki had a tough time coming up with the bonus money to pay him. I think that when you win a championship for a company and they promised a big payout if you do........... and then they can't pay you right away........ it leaves a bad taste in your mouth, even if you're a nice guy. You did your part, and they are not upholding their part of the bargain.

I also see the other side of it from Suzuki's standpoint as a company. You hire an up and coming guy, hoping he'll grow into a champion in the premier class and pay him less than he's worth with big "bonuses" if he wins a championship. You figure with proven winners like Stewart, Reed, and Villipoto in the class already that you won't have to pay those huge bonuses out after all. But all of a sudden, he's the last man standing and runs the table on both series and now you have hefty bills to pay that there is no money for........... what do you do?

Overall, money is down in the motorsports divisions of the Japanese companies and the teams are much smaller with less guys getting support than just a few years ago. You need some other sponsors to pick up the tab too, but with global economy down....... those dollars are harder to come by too. If Dungey was riding 10 years ago, he'd have more money in his contract than he does right now based on his record so far....... but things change and he has to go where the money is best for him right now............. 1 crash is all it takes to end his career right now and then he's only got the money he's made since he turned 16 to live on for the rest of his life.

If I was in his shoes, I'd go with whoever paid me the most since I'm doing this for 10 years max and I need to maximize my 10 years to last for 50 more after that. It's as simple as that.

Let's not forget that Dungey also just watched Chad Reed go without any team offers this year and have to reach into his own pocket to show that he was still a Top 3 guy indoors and out. If he can't get a ride on a team....... Dungey is just one bad season away from no money too. Good guy or not, that has to weigh in on your decision process. In my book if I was running a factory backed race team, I'd rather have Chad Reed than Andrew Short, Josh Grant, Mike Alessi, Jake Weimer, Bret Metcalfe, or Kevin Windham........... but he was overlooked after a poor showing with Kawasaki last year in favor of all those riders who still had backing. None of those guys could hold a candle to Reed and Reed was paying his own way........... if you're in Dungey's position and see that you're one bad season away from no ride................. MAXIMIZE YOUR DOLLARS NOW! I feel that the top guys right now are Villipoto, Dungey, Reed, Canard, and Stewart......... everyone else is a not really a podium threat unless these 5 guys are out and I feel they should make the most money and have the most sponsorship options based on their skills, records, and speed. Anyone else has to prove their way into that group to be top paid guy in my book.

Simple as that.
 
RocketRobin said:
Let's not forget that Dungey also just watched Chad Reed go without any team offers this year and have to reach into his own pocket to show that he was still a Top 3 guy indoors and out.
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I heard an interview with Reed earlier this year after he had the team up and running. A reporter was asking why he would continue racing when he is already a millionaire, and Reed interupted him and said "Was.....was a millionaire." haha Running that team is expensive!
 
John250 said:
He did not turn money down......nice thought but no way....NO ONE in this sport turns down money if it is being offered. I dont care how nice of a guy you are. If your that nice, take the money and do something good with it.
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Hey i was a dungey fan when he was rockin the 62, so most of you probably missed the interview, but it was a few years ago transworld had an interview with him, and he turned down money, is all im saying, He didnt feel he had accomplished enough, was grateful for his ride, and hadnt done a whole lot, he wanted to do something for suzuki before he was taking more money, you got to remember, Decoster brought him straight from the B class to the Pro ranks on a factory team!, that doesnt happen often. Hell half the kids that are at the top of the A class at loretta's are on privateer and satellite teams,
 
20111001-031636.jpgNow lets see his race bike!
 
six6seven said:
Hey i was a dungey fan when he was rockin the 62, so most of you probably missed the interview, but it was a few years ago transworld had an interview with him, and he turned down money, is all im saying, He didnt feel he had accomplished enough, was grateful for his ride, and hadnt done a whole lot, he wanted to do something for suzuki before he was taking more money, you got to remember, Decoster brought him straight from the B class to the Pro ranks on a factory team!, that doesnt happen often. Hell half the kids that are at the top of the A class at loretta's are on privateer and satellite teams,
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theres probably more to it than just he turned down money. maybe it was a lump sum or race performance, and he thought he could make more money on the results deal. suzuki doesnt have money. thats why they handed their race team efforts over to yoshi. dungey also had trouble collecting his bonus money from them his rookie season. so the money factor probably had alot to do with him leaving.
 
barrington314 said:
theres probably more to it than just he turned down money. maybe it was a lump sum or race performance, and he thought he could make more money on the results deal. suzuki doesnt have money. thats why they handed their race team efforts over to yoshi. dungey also had trouble collecting his bonus money from them his rookie season. so the money factor probably had alot to do with him leaving.
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hmm....hard time postin the checks....no DeCoster....that was the time bomb that ran out of tick-tick-ticks for sure.
 
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