mooch
PR Elite
should we just do away with message boards? because if someones opinion doesnt match yours, it shouldnt be talked about right?
So...tell me, what exactly is my opinion?
should we just do away with message boards? because if someones opinion doesnt match yours, it shouldnt be talked about right?
I think it proves that the braces have no credible safety function. People are still getting hurt, no evidence to suggest its preventing injury.
so what happens when joe racer still fractures (or worse) his neck while wearing a brace? and our sport is much different than that of auto racing. a "hans" is not like a mx neck brace. you are not falling on your head in auto racing.I personally think they all should be required to wear a brace.......just my opinion. Many driving series require some form of neck devices, our sport is no different. I know others will TOTALLY disagree with me, but it is MY opinion that people should wear braces.
So it's already been PROVEN that neck braces are useless? A lot of folks have been waiting for that proof...can you share your testing documentation to back that up?
Keep in mind, I doubt if you know my opinion on this topic either.
Here we go again...I don't think anyone here can decisively state whether or not his broken neck would have happened had he been wearing a brace. The same holds true for whether or not he would have sustained an injury somewhere else had he been wearing a brace. If you have no way of knowing, why even go there?
All that can be said is that the way he landed (which was MUCH more violent than a "tuck and roll")...resulted in a broken neck.
I think it proves that the braces have no credible safety function. People are still getting hurt, no evidence to suggest its preventing injury.
I had fractures to both, C6,C7 wearing a neck brace!!!!! So my point is people are still getting hurt wearing them and if i wasn't wearing one would my outcome been worse????? I don't know and nobody does!!Mooch, quote the whole response. (See below)
You said it yourself in the red....it can't be determined if they help people or not. I was just validating your statment, by saying my quote: I think it proves that the braces have no credible safety function. People are still getting hurt, no evidence to suggest its preventing injury.
I think thats part of the problem. There are too many ways to wreck to say if it would help/hurt you. BUT, I do believe that if tested, I bet it would show your percentage of getting hurt increases while wearing one. I'd like to see a study done of the number of riders with back/spine injurys before neck braces and after they came out. For myself, I know of 3 paralized people in NE Ohio within a year or 2 of each other. I bet I only knew of 5 in the 15 years before that. That says something to me.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Mooch, quote the whole response. (See below)
You said it yourself in the red....it can't be determined if they help people or not. I was just validating your statment, by saying my quote: I think it proves that the braces have no credible safety function. People are still getting hurt, no evidence to suggest its preventing injury.
I know that if I talked someone out of wearing a brace, I'd feel like shiit if they then went out and broke their neck. I'd always be wondering whether the brace would have prevented that injury and that I gave them the bad advice that resulted in an injury.
And for the folks itching to argue a certain side, I was not wearing a neck brace and I never have. Have I been pondering the transition, yes, but no matter what, it's all a matter of choice and what feels comfortable to the rider. Both sides have valid arguments, but neither side has solid proof nor can they argue against the fact that the level of our sport is higher than it has ever been, and so is the risk of injury! Either accept the risk or find another sport is what I say.
FMXPAUL, your slightly off concerning the Thoracic controlling your breathing, the presence of facets on the sides of the vertebrae are for articulation with the heads of the ribs. That being said, an injury to the Thoracic portion of your spine will result in what feels like the inability to breathe due to the effect it has on the ribs. (I'm speaking from experience, on NYE I fractured my T4-T7 at Ram Jam and thought I punctured a lung, broke my wrist as well).
Yeah, I told ya I wasn't paying attention when they were talking.. hell, I'm not paying attention now...