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Quit crying... no 50cc parents complain about a packed down track.And they don't have eleven track destroying quad classes.
So....quad bashing and defending is part of the LL equation how????
If we are talking about what the OP wanted then why this topic? You want the reality of it? Quads are part of the equation, they change the type of track our bike guys ride on. And it isnt the type of practice they need to get to the level required of LL or beyond. I have raced CRA since 1989, that is all I rode until district 12 had the last year of racing. The tracks were rougher and had more lines than a typical CRA race because there were no quads. They still prepped the track and removed the roughness through out the day though.
A few years back I went to Red Bud for Vet Fest. Eye opening experience. They dont disc the track because it gets bumpy. They only prep if it get dusty or if certain areas get to bombed out. And their idea and our local track idea of bombed out are entirely different! This year I went all out for LL. I rode 4 area qualifiers and 2 regionals. These tracks get so rough, are so demanding and (especially the regionals) are such a better caliber track. I can tell you there isnt a track I have been to in Ohio that could remotely prepare you for this type of racing.
The mentality in Ohio seems to be smooth easy racing surface serves us best. So the quads either smooth it out and make one fantastic berm on the out side or give you a relatively fresh track to ride on. Now BC seems to have the best of both worlds generally with the rough staying the two play together well. But even the Battle race in 12 didnt get as rough as the regionals were after 5 motos. So Im not sure if the quads have groomed this mentality or if the mentality brought the quads to ride and the tracks would prep like that anyway.
Does it matter? No. My personal experience is there are no tracks in Ohio preparing our riders to be at the level required to compete for LL and beyond. So only those willing to put the time and mega bucks into lots of travel time and training are those who will advance. With out riding in the conditions required a rider ant learn how to ride in it.
So....quad bashing and defending is part of the LL equation how????
If we are talking about what the OP wanted then why this topic? You want the reality of it? Quads are part of the equation, they change the type of track our bike guys ride on. And it isnt the type of practice they need to get to the level required of LL or beyond. I have raced CRA since 1989, that is all I rode until district 12 had the last year of racing. The tracks were rougher and had more lines than a typical CRA race because there were no quads. They still prepped the track and removed the roughness through out the day though.
A few years back I went to Red Bud for Vet Fest. Eye opening experience. They dont disc the track because it gets bumpy. They only prep if it get dusty or if certain areas get to bombed out. And their idea and our local track idea of bombed out are entirely different! This year I went all out for LL. I rode 4 area qualifiers and 2 regionals. These tracks get so rough, are so demanding and (especially the regionals) are such a better caliber track. I can tell you there isnt a track I have been to in Ohio that could remotely prepare you for this type of racing.
The mentality in Ohio seems to be smooth easy racing surface serves us best. So the quads either smooth it out and make one fantastic berm on the out side or give you a relatively fresh track to ride on. Now BC seems to have the best of both worlds generally with the rough staying the two play together well. But even the Battle race in 12 didnt get as rough as the regionals were after 5 motos. So Im not sure if the quads have groomed this mentality or if the mentality brought the quads to ride and the tracks would prep like that anyway.
Does it matter? No. My personal experience is there are no tracks in Ohio preparing our riders to be at the level required to compete for LL and beyond. So only those willing to put the time and mega bucks into lots of travel time and training are those who will advance. With out riding in the conditions required a rider ant learn how to ride in it.
2 foot braking bump... now we are talk'n. Deep ruts in the corners (multiple and not just the one on the inside), big braking bumps with square edges, demanding doubles, triple and whoops that only the best riders can clear or hammer... I think it moved.... Yes, that is what we need to "make" better riders on a national level. I personally have never been a fan of the cars (I guess they are called quads, but really...) It is just two very different track set-ups. I am sure the quad guys don't like deep tire ruts from the inside to the outside in every corner. We biker HATE the shinny "Springfield Mile" corners that are left after the cars are finished. Just run them at the end of the day. After the last motos of the day, have a quad practice and race. It should take the same amount of time and everyone is happy.
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And they don't have eleven track destroying quad classes.
OK, I must claim ignorance on this one. Do they have bike classes at a Quad race? I personally have never been to a quad race (if they exist) but I am betting they do not have bike classes. I have nothing against "quadies", "quadites", "quadons", "drivers"??? Whatever you call yourself... but it is simply apples to oranges.. big, giant, rut flatting, berm removing, corner scrapping, oranges. My last experience with a driver was at Dirt country over a dozen years ago. And that GEM had just got back from a moto when he schlepped over to the cooler to get him a 22oz Natty light and a fresh Marlboro to relax after his "race". I am sure times have changed, and not all "quadickels" are like that guy. Man, I have gotten WAY off topic.
I am looking forward to seeing some good racing by some good riders on a good track Sunday. I just wish those "goods" would become "great"
I have to meet this Nitro dude, sounds like a good dude. Look me up Sunday and we can do some bench racing. Natty's are on me.
Maybe these up and coming pros you want to see should prove their ability by being able to go fast through a flat corner rather than relying on a rut to do it for them.
You're correct. It is called MOTOCROSS and the MOTO part was taken from the word MOTORCYCLE.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/motocross
Reading the posts on here about why Ohio isn't producing a ton of top amateurs is amusing. You people just plain have no idea. We've been practicing and racing on flat quad turns for decades now, again, you simply have no idea. Spend a year and go race bike events all over the country and then check back in.
I've been to a quad national. I think it's awesome and truly cool to watch those guys battle it out and in many ways I think it's tougher than racing bikes. But it's different, and people trying to say it's not different are just plain hiding from the truth.
The truth is that on a local level quad riders cannot support their own sport. They must rely on being included with bike racing or they would have nothing. That's fine, and I've spent 30 years in Ohio racing with quads (and earlier 3 wheelers). Now I'm at a point in my life where I am blessed to be able to travel and do with my income and vacation time as I please, and I choose to follow large National events that attract bike racers from all over the country and world.
Sounds like the OMA is all about quads and improving quad racing in Ohio. That's fine! Good for them. But don't whine and cry when I'm somewhere else because I have already been there/done that for decades.
You have obviously never rode two wheels on a rough track.. Or a smooth pavement like one for that matter