hershey
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So after my epic fail of a thread titled " Growing the sport" , one started recently about Apple Cabin track conditions and talking with friends this weekend I have thought much about the culture of Pitracer and human nature in general.
Some have eluded to not posting on this site because people like to bitch too much. In particular I have heard many track owners say this. Im wondering why this is any different than real life because I had a hard time figuring out why it is. By real life I mean up front and personal, in person face to face. A text from a friend this am put it all into prospective for me.
In real life people are too afraid most times to say what is on their mind. They .....1.....dont want to be in a confrontational situation... 2....too shy to talk in general ....3....dont want to look stupid ....or ....4.... dont want to offend people
I venture to say that a very large percentage of people reading ideas on here agree and say so when it is something many agree with and isnt negative in any way at all.
Then you have the criticisms about tracks.....while there are a few jack a***s posting stupid stuff without real concerns or problems, Id say the largest majority are real criticisms with no meaning of ill will to the track or track crew. Being on the web you cant judge the emotional meaning of the individual giving the criticism. Some tracks take this personal and some understand its feedback.
Take the Apple Cabin post. The OP gave his comments and they didnt seem too harsh, Frank gave a fantastic reply and all is well. Then we have some adds to that with another member giving his ideas. Now personally I feel that his concerns were legit (meaning he was being genuine with out meaning to upset anyone) but since he didnt start out or give any positive feedback first he got ripped to shreds and went downhill from there.
And my post about growing the sport. It was just an idea I had about getting pee wee kids hooked. Somehow it turned into a track bashing ( or some people thought it was ) thread with a bunch of pissed off people.
So why is this? Why do people take any form of criticism as an insult ? And what good does it do any one by not voicing concerns, criticisms or ideas ? Isnt that how people and businesses grow---fundamentally, emotionally? How they learn , grow and improve?
Back to this site and the criticisms.
There are a few of us on here who type what we think, what we like and dont like. We stick to what we say, meaning we are genuine. There are the members who type just to piss people off. Then there is a big group who type on here what they think people want to hear but behind the scenes have a different tune. The latter group are the ones I dont understand the most. Although the ones just trying to piss people off are annoying, they arent doing it much and everyone knows what it is. It is actually a little entertaining. But the ones who say on here things are great but then talking to them in person they have complaints ..... what good does that do anybody? Those are the ones who create more problems than anyone. How does a business ( meaning a track ) or person learn their weakness so they can improve if they dont receive honest feedback ?
A friend of mine got me thinking this am with that text, I had to agree and post. Way too many on here fall into that last category and I dont understand why.
Some have eluded to not posting on this site because people like to bitch too much. In particular I have heard many track owners say this. Im wondering why this is any different than real life because I had a hard time figuring out why it is. By real life I mean up front and personal, in person face to face. A text from a friend this am put it all into prospective for me.
In real life people are too afraid most times to say what is on their mind. They .....1.....dont want to be in a confrontational situation... 2....too shy to talk in general ....3....dont want to look stupid ....or ....4.... dont want to offend people
I venture to say that a very large percentage of people reading ideas on here agree and say so when it is something many agree with and isnt negative in any way at all.
Then you have the criticisms about tracks.....while there are a few jack a***s posting stupid stuff without real concerns or problems, Id say the largest majority are real criticisms with no meaning of ill will to the track or track crew. Being on the web you cant judge the emotional meaning of the individual giving the criticism. Some tracks take this personal and some understand its feedback.
Take the Apple Cabin post. The OP gave his comments and they didnt seem too harsh, Frank gave a fantastic reply and all is well. Then we have some adds to that with another member giving his ideas. Now personally I feel that his concerns were legit (meaning he was being genuine with out meaning to upset anyone) but since he didnt start out or give any positive feedback first he got ripped to shreds and went downhill from there.
And my post about growing the sport. It was just an idea I had about getting pee wee kids hooked. Somehow it turned into a track bashing ( or some people thought it was ) thread with a bunch of pissed off people.
So why is this? Why do people take any form of criticism as an insult ? And what good does it do any one by not voicing concerns, criticisms or ideas ? Isnt that how people and businesses grow---fundamentally, emotionally? How they learn , grow and improve?
Back to this site and the criticisms.
There are a few of us on here who type what we think, what we like and dont like. We stick to what we say, meaning we are genuine. There are the members who type just to piss people off. Then there is a big group who type on here what they think people want to hear but behind the scenes have a different tune. The latter group are the ones I dont understand the most. Although the ones just trying to piss people off are annoying, they arent doing it much and everyone knows what it is. It is actually a little entertaining. But the ones who say on here things are great but then talking to them in person they have complaints ..... what good does that do anybody? Those are the ones who create more problems than anyone. How does a business ( meaning a track ) or person learn their weakness so they can improve if they dont receive honest feedback ?
A friend of mine got me thinking this am with that text, I had to agree and post. Way too many on here fall into that last category and I dont understand why.