Here is the issue I have with the whole system. You should NOT have to go to a regional and qualify at a regional. That tells me that it is nothing more than a money grab. Once you make it to the regional, there should be 40 riders in each class. no more, Qualifiers as many as show up race, and there may be qualifiers. But at the regional, you should only have 40 riders per class, Just my opinion.
1985 when Malvern was still called Motosport Trail's. It was a total mud bath on Saturday and Sunday morning was still bad, but the track dried out by late afternoon.
So what you said is wrong...qualifying for the Olympics has nothing to do with a Home Region. You just have to be able to beat Phelps.I can not just show up at an Olympic trial and challenge Michael Phillips. You have to qualify from regional races. (I assume)
....Wait, now you're ok with it???Clearly the timing of different regionals is to grab more money. If someone wants to chase that all over the country, fine. Have at it.
I just don't like the idea of diluting the "national"
Now deal with that mental picture I just painted...
Yea overbooking regionals is what me angry.
But it makes the regional more competitive. As once you hit the second Moto there is another guy possibly two guys with your 7th place tally. And up to 3 guys that won their Heat.
Races all turn into a 3 lap sprint come Sunday at 7pm. Too many overbooked riders and classes to get through.
Why?Here is the issue I have with the whole system. You should NOT have to go to a regional and qualify at a regional.
Why? If you're the fast guy, why would you care?Once you make it to the regional, there should be 40 riders in each class. no more, Qualifiers as many as show up race, and there may be qualifiers. But at the regional, you should only have 40 riders per class, Just my opinion.
How is that different than what we have now? and wouldn't excluding someone simply because of location not "dilute" the national???I like the idea of coming from your home region also. This then puts a variety of people from all across the country on the track. So then you can determine a champ.
How may "shortened" moto's have you been in at the Regional Level????? how many?That's the problem with over booking regionals exactly. End up shorting up motos because they had so many qualifiers and LCQs.
Are you implying that because of the current system some of the racers don't belong?If only 40 made a regional, they could run 15 minute plus 1 lap motos, and then the guys that should be at Lorettas are the ones getting there. The regional should be 40 riders per class.
The issue is if you cant make it from your home regional, you don't deserve to go. You crash...ahhhh too bad, try next year.
Want a promotion at work this year? Did you do better then the people you are competing against? No...well that's OK, here is another easier task. You do that just good enough, we will reward you... Life does not work like that. Better to teach kids while they are young.
Making it to the race should not be the goal. You compete to WIN. Now they give out the pathetic "admit one" plaques at the regionals... Come on man... If you are happy with a participation award then just get you bib at the ranch and go home. Save the frontrunners the trouble of dodging you as you get lapped.
Im back BABY... sometimes the truth stings a little. After a while you may start to like and accept it.
If someone wants to chase that all over the country, fine. Have at it. I just don't like the idea of diluting the "national"
Now deal with that mental picture I just painted...
I thought motosoprt trails (Run by Gary Pontius) was what finally became spring valley?
So, in other words.....you made up that stuff about shortening races just to bolster your position. You have no proof or any truth in that statement...do you?I have only run a handful of qualifiers since I went to Lorettas in the 90s.
But yet you feel Daytona is a deal...No reason to spend my money, I don't have LL Speed for the classes I am in.
I just think that when you get to a regional there should be two motos 40 guys. Let the qualifiers weed out the slow ones. Just my opinion. And seems to make sense to me. Seems like anymore than that is nothing more than a money grab. I would think most people would agree with that about regionals.
But, this also takes away from the "local" tracks running against all the qualifiers and regionals. The current set-up consumes 6 weeks.
To a promoter it seems like Russian Roulette in April-May-June. Perception is 12 weeks, but the reality is that's its really the qualifier months. That's when locals try to make it. They're more focused on qualifying and running around to as many as they can. The amount drops down once you get to regional month. You do lose some, but its less I think. Which should be accurate based on the Ohio numbers you post.
I don't think you will see it because you don't want to. It dilutes it because you have several chances to get it right ONCE. Instead of getting it right on the one chance you should get. This is why in nearly every class you have a select few out front by several seconds then another group.. then another, much slower groupSo yesterday at noon you felt this way about it -
And in less than 24 hours you say -
You’re not able to point to anyway the current system dilutes anything, are you?
It dilutes it because you have several chances to get it right ONCE. Instead of getting it right on the one chance you should get.
You feel this is because of the opportunity to race more than one regional? -- ok, please expound.This is why in nearly every class you have a select few out front by several seconds then another group.. then another, much slower group
This way is actually a much Better system in promoting the best talent in the sport.The reason I say "have at it" is that is the current way it is according to the rules
Never disagreed that you'd have to qualify.And to even quality to beat Phelps you have to first qualify at smaller races (qualifiers)