Crash-N-Burn
PR Member
Not trolling nor looking to argue...
However, what specifically is meant about the program being unorganized?
However, what specifically is meant about the program being unorganized?
No problem, again how many national tracks have you ridden on? Ive ridden High Point, Steel City, Ironman, Muddy Creek, Millville and Red Bud. The narrowest parts of all of those tracks are still wider than anything at CTMX. All Im saying is for a race with full gates of very fast riders it isnt optimal for passing. I didnt hear anyone who thought it was while I was there. Its great for the small kids but thats about it. For the local races, Battle series and Area qualies its great! You cant beat the event and grounds for sure. The down side is many riders wont return because of the price gouging and fair race track feel.
And as far as flagging, Ive done my share. For me to do that is out of the question, Instead you will have 4 class entries, 3 practice entries, 4 gate fees and 3 nights of camping. If I figured it right thats $365 Im donating to help Ohio MX. Not including the food and t shirts I'll buy.[/QUOT
No problem, again how many national tracks have you ridden on? Ive ridden High Point, Steel City, Ironman, Muddy Creek, Millville and Red Bud. The narrowest parts of all of those tracks are still wider than anything at CTMX. All Im saying is for a race with full gates of very fast riders it isnt optimal for passing. I didnt hear anyone who thought it was while I was there. Its great for the small kids but thats about it. For the local races, Battle series and Area qualies its great! You cant beat the event and grounds for sure. The down side is many riders wont return because of the price gouging and fair race track feel.
And as far as flagging, Ive done my share. For me to do that is out of the question, Instead you will have 4 class entries, 3 practice entries, 4 gate fees and 3 nights of camping. If I figured it right thats $365 Im donating to help Ohio MX. Not including the food and t shirts I'll buy.
Here we go again with the track isn't wide enough! You ask for three sections that are 20' and usable? Just as a quick reference the three overhead banner canopies are 24' wide. I think people look at the track and because its not spread out over 50 acres everyone thinks its narrow. In order to be considered for a area or regional event you must have a minimum of 20' of "usable" track all the way around so obviously we met that requirement.
As far as flagger go...I'd like to invite you to come help in a few weeks at our Battle race.
I guess you feel your point should be validated by the fact you have ridden on the national tracks you mentions and that somehow makes you right but I think you have done a great job of confusing the disagreement. You originally made the claim that CTMX was narrow because the track wasn't 20' wide and usable. Now you are comparing it to High Point, Steel City, etc. I don't need to have ever ridden any of those tracks to read a tape measure and know that I am right.
I personally witnessed a lot of following this past weekend because kids wanted the fast line and didn't want to use a outside corner. Or better yet cutting the track! Just ask Knox! I watched him fix the hay bales numerous times in the corner he was flagging yesterday because kids didn't want to use the outer 15' of track to pass so they bulldozed the track barriers to start a new line. We have had lots of full gates in years past and the track held the riders just fine and some of those gates were when the track wasn't nearly as wide as it is now. I've never seen so many kids at one of our events docked for cutting the track as much as I seen this past weekend. I've also never seen so many nasty parents screaming at their kids...maybe thats the correlation? These kids are under so much pressure they are willing to cheat to keep from getting yelled at.
Sounds like you are just sour about your decision to attend a regional event and now looking for things to complain about to somehow feel better. Classic case of buyers remorse? Now its the money? lol! What did you expect to pay? Did you think you were going to roll in and pay the same price as you did the last time you were at CTMX? Cmon man! Really? Wasn't it you that just said we should have had more people on quads getting to riders? Well we did. We also had more in registration, staging, front gate, track maintenance, facility maintenance, security, extra equipment and thats just to name a few. Where do you think we should get the money to pay for all this extra staffing and expenses? You seem like a smart guy so i'm disappointed at the fact that you feel like we were price gouging when we were on par with all the regional events. I would expect more from such a seasoned rider as yourself...you know, since you have ridden on national tracks and all.
As to the $25 to $10 primitive camping change, that was adjusted before anyone purchased those passes so no one over paid compared to the next.
Gotta love the Monday morning keyboard warriors that have all the answers.
About 5 weeks away from showing you how to pass on that exact trackOf course Knox makes it all sound easy without actually showing us.
You will get a clinic each moto of 40+. Hahaha
Kettle or buttered?I really like this thread! I'm glad it's back!!!
I need more popcorn tho........
My post specifically said more than 20' wide AND useable. I have no buyers remorse, I simply don't agree that the track itself was regional worthy. Everything else, besides the outrageous costs compared to other regionals, was fantastic. The extra money comes from the 890 ish rider entries compared to a normal 3-400 turnout.
Hey, no sweat off my back. The kids had fun, the weather was great and I spent time with family and friends. To each their own.
Keyboard warrior # 2,765,832 out
Wednesday! I see Wednesday on some of those gate schedules! wow. not.