Right...basically.At this point in my racing, I race, and it really does not matter where I finish. Sure I want to do good, but it is not the end of the world if I don't.
Did you even race this year?At this point in my racing, I race, and it really does not matter where I finish. Sure I want to do good, but it is not the end of the world if I don't.
Did you even race this year?
Yeah, about 5 or 6 times until I screwed up my back and hip in August. Even had a hole shot at Daytona!!Did you even race this year?
NiceYeah, about 5 or 6 times until I screwed up my back and hip in August. Even had a hole shot at Daytona!!
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So, In overall top 5 30+, 2 A riders, 3 B riders this past season, I believe it was the same in battle…….so…….what is the point locally? Honestly the vet classes shouldn’t even have ABC designation, after your 30, it should be high gear or low gear. I wanna go fast, or I’m good at cruising speed, 30+ 1, or 30+ 2. especially on a national level. what in the hell is a beginner or even entry level vet doing racing a national?Ps,
There's more of that going on than you think too. Lost revenue because of it. The way Daytona has it set up works flawlessly. 30+ (with no designation after it), and 30 B/C.. If the B guys comfortable with being on the track with ex pros or A riders, they still can without being in an actual A class.. If not comfortable, and more on the C side of things, they can just ride the B/C class..
Let's throw the opinion that you have aside. What you personally THINK doesn't mean crap nationally, while it could directly effect those who do ride local and nationally. You're a quad guy, of course you think along the lines of their class structure. I know on my end it looks like a conflict of interest, but I am trying to think of ways to better the local stuff to give it a bigger feel. Especially at battle type stuff. I mean, I'll be honest, how many local races did I even ride this year? Half of them were so my daughter could ride to get her feet wet. This means, what you do or don't do is sort of irrelevant to me. Just trying to help get the big feel back.
If you want to do something other than I suggested, my plan B suggestion would be to ditch the 30 "C" designation. Make it 25+ (or 30) D or Beginner no points. Back to no triple life. That class originated as that but has evolved into a class that carries a good pace for the top 5-7 guys. Put those 5-7 guys in +30 (with no designation) and you're back to a bigger turn out, probably in both classes. Going to 30 and 30 bc would do the same but flopping ends of the spectrum. Doing 30 beginner wouldn't align nationally as well though. I'm sure I'll get s**t from my 30c friends for even suggesting plan b. Lol
I'm mainly thinking it may help you in the bigger picture. You may attract more guys from both sides of the fence. It (30 bc and 30) will align more nationally, not that every one cares about that, but if they end up venturing out, it could make it more seamless. There are guys that don't find joy in "racing" or getting lapped by Gibby at a battle. I'm also sure Gibby or the like can get sketched at times coming up on slower B riders.
Yeah, about 5 or 6 times until I screwed up my back and hip in August. Even had a hole shot at Daytona!!
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Icks the 30c.If you need a 30b/c to win a state or local series maybe it’s time to train harder?!
30c is good, it gives the not serious or weekend warrior, and beginners/late bloomers a class. You just get back to sending those emails to Morgantown to keep that B/C!!!
Sorry you believe it to be that way. Just trying to have a constructive conversation is all.I do not think you are complaining. I know it. Thanks for the help.
Personally, if you going to have 2 30+ classes, it should be like it was back in the day IMO. 30+B/C and 30+A. Sure, we would more than likely run them together every race, with another class potentially, but score them separately. A 30+B- rider wants nothing to do with being scored against the likes of Gibby and the like. An automatic -1....or more...lol.id love to see 30 locally just be 30, not the 30 C stuff separate. regardless of where I finish, its just not fun to race 5-6 guys. Im all for anything that puts more riders on the gate at once. I have no interest in racing locally mostly because of that.
Obviously you have zero clue what C class is at a national level. It's anything but beginner, these guys would wax almost every B rider we have in the area. It's a complete joke.So, In overall top 5 30+, 2 A riders, 3 B riders this past season, I believe it was the same in battle…….so…….what is the point locally? Honestly the vet classes shouldn’t even have ABC designation, after your 30, it should be high gear or low gear. I wanna go fast, or I’m good at cruising speed, 30+ 1, or 30+ 2. especially on a national level. what in the hell is a beginner or even entry level vet doing racing a national?
I don't believe that to be possible, technically. You may be able to disect it with a transponder system, or if you snuck in the scoring tower and asked the girls if you could see their hand written sheets. Looking at a results page, you wouldn't be able to I dont believe.This has nothing to do with the LL B/C stuff but to add to Hershey's post about gate drops, above,
in the results, in addition to where you finished within your class, is it possible to show an overall finish for that gate drop?
If so, you could then see where you finished relative to everyone on the gate regardless of class.