Yea, OK. When you no longer have any facts, ad hominem arguements are the way to go.
Are skewed facts really facts? So sorry if anything was taken personally but citing obviously biased sources just doesn't cut it.
Yea, OK. When you no longer have any facts, ad hominem arguements are the way to go.
I don't believe any of them. Do you believe a word *either* of these
butt heads say?
Much of what you have to say I sorta agree with, Obamacare did nothing
to cut costs. Except for the 20% G&A cap for insurance companies.
But your Bus101 argument is specious as we pay those costs, no matter
what. I could tell you some horror stories if it didn't violate HIPAA law but
people that can't afford health care always show up at the emergency
room, sicker than if they could have seen a doctor in his office because
now it really hurts, and the hospital HAS TO TAKE THEM! You and I pay
for that.
You really want to cut costs? Cut out the insurance companies completely.
Medicare. Most countries have already done it and their people are as
healthy as we are. Takes a layer of markup out.
I believe both of them sometimes, after I've checked into the various versions of facts, and determined what makes sense. Certainly not because they said so.
A cap on insurance payments does not reduce the cost of the medical care.
People who get medical treatment they cannot pay for are covered by increased fees to those who do. Obamacare simply requires us to pay for insurance that will pay their medical bills as opposed to just paying the medical bills which does nothing more than add another expensive layer of administration for us to fund. Either way, we pay, and taxpayer funded insurance is not a solution.
Everyone on Medicare? Many countries do use a government single payer system. Many of their citzens come here because they don't just deny coverage for certain things, but will also deny treament if you wish to go around the government system and pay for it your self. These systems are broke or on their way to it, and healthcare gets rationed as a result.
You misunderstand. Obamacare does not put a cap on insurance payments which, like
Medicare, controls cost. It only caps general and administrative expenses charged to
policyholders.
I'm not following this. What?
Why force people to pay for that when the majority of the population doesn't give a s**t to use contraception even if its free??"By the way, paying for contraception is WAY cheaper than paying for maternity care. Why any
organization paying for insurance didn't do that on their own is beyond me."
The rates went up drastically around the US the first year Obamacare was passed for this reason.
The same goes for the cap on general and administrative costs. If the cap is in place for those costs then they will simply raise the costs for the medical portion of their coverage to level it out.
Why force people to pay for that when the majority of the population doesn't give a s**t to use contraception even if its free??
As noted and detailed earlier, it didn't go up drastically. One of the lowest increases
since '97, the only data I found.
You misunderstand. Obamacare does not put a cap on insurance payments which, like
Medicare, controls cost. It only caps general and administrative expenses charged to
policyholders.
I've always wondered,........If I go the doctors or the hospital can I get a special rate if I pay for there rendered services with cash? Cold hard green dollars right there, out of my pocket, on the counter. Is there a special price menu for those of us who can pay cash?
If I could, most of the time it would be a hell of a lot less hassle than EOB's and co-pays, and deductibles, and max-out-of-pockets, and contract languages.
After all, 50 years ago, this is how it used to be?
Not that I know enough about healthcare to get into the middle of this, but this leads somewhat into Kaiser 878's comment about healthcare insurance being a luxury.
It seems to me a couple things has happened. First, people have lost sight of the fact that health care insurance was always an optional, non-mandated luxury benefit plan.
This has happened I believe because health services and pharmacueticals have become very big business, and therefore now big business runs it, and incidently runs our government also. Second, they figured out that if we brain wash the public we can tell them that Healthcare services should be an entitlement. You deserve it. Let the government help you get it. After all, there's no reason you should have to pay your own health care medical bills. (sarcasm).
Corporate greed and power runs the industry, and the government. An older man who was a mentor to me when I was young said several times that Insurance companies run this country.